""I had this thought the other day- Ignorance could have been bliss....or an empty excuse for a conscious.......... Raven, you do know how to get the wheels turning in my mind. I've chewed this around, thought on it, pounded it with my jackhammer brain and I'm not sure if I surfaced a bit wiser or a bit mystified. The breakdown: Which brings me to: "
I thought this would be interesting to write about..the dynamics of not knowing and how easy it is to miss what is ugly...and yet...searching inward creates other problems..sight...has to have compassion...otherwise...the heart evolves with surprises.........What do you think?......""
Asked and inspired By Raven of RebukeTheWorld
Although connected, your questions and thoughts have several different aspects that can leave a thinker like myself repeatedly pounding my head against a wall. Toss the same question at 5 different people and you'll get 5 different ideas, so my opinion is the result of one possibility, one notion, one perspective and I'll have to assume you were looking for my specific ideas on your thoughts.
I have a really hard time with ignorance as bliss or an excuse for anything. I have to believe on some level that if something is effecting a person, to some degree they feel it, perceive it, deny it, acknowledge it, ignore it, pick your poison, but they know it.....Pick an experience, any experience and with some poking and prodding we humans can retrace the files in our mind and find plenty of times, moments, where we either choose to ignore an issue, deny it's appearance or existence, and move along like nothing was there worth stopping for.
A conscious overshadows any form of ignorance. A conscious is a basic human trait not a single one of us can escape it's persistent voice. Ignore, yes, deny, yes, pretend all is well in fantasy land yes, but deep down or on the surface, we cannot escape our conscious mind.
Just as I find beauty in almost everything, there needs to be ugly to define that beauty. Without the contrast, a person can feel like a compass with no direction. There is no value on something unrecognized. I believe everyone has a level to which they reflect on things in life. From simple observation to deep exploration of a solitary or collective feeling, emotion or experience.
If a person doesn't care, or isn't interested enough to seek out beauty not defined by conventional definition, they probably wouldn't notice ugly parading down the street. Thats personal and thats all right, it's a choice, or a desire exhibited by every individual. If I had a wish for humanity it would be that all people continue to reach for new levels of conscious, for within exploration comes discovery, more beauty, more ugly and more reaching.............
Which brings me to:
In my humble opinion, searching inward is the only path to breaking free of the mediocrity of what is expected. Does it create problems? Yes, because we are all born with a box of expectations in life. When, if you do good, you will be rewarded, do bad and you will be punished is the driving force behind living. And protect our own and compliment others, works 80% of the time, why not? Which by the way, I believe is a superficial way to live life. A person can become disoriented and confused by seeking answers not found in conventional thinking.
We all have our own innate sensory balance to life, influenced by every single stimuli we've come in contact with. How can we expect to provide true compassion to others if we don't even understand the power of our own inner mentality? The illusions of normalcy plagued my mind for many years, still does, and the inherent longing within me will continue to fight the confines of conventional. Responsibility to the world around us, within us, through us and between us, is a beautiful way to fuel compassion.
"otherwise...the heart evolves with surprises........"
Ah, the heart, the driving emotional fuel for which we all can measure our influence in life. As long as our hearts beat, we can love, as long as we can love, we will connect, as long as we connect, we can find meaning to everything. Heart/Love is capable of such extraordinary things. I could write for an entire day about what love means to me, but when it comes down to it, yes, love, the heart, takes my breath away with surprise. If there is one common thread to be coveted by humanity, it's our ability to need and provide love. Love is beauty and ugly and hope and desire and turmoil and connection and perfection all bound up, full of possibilities I cannot define. Love is the evolution of our very conscious nature and needs.
You know, I'm just a thought, a notion and words behind an idea. I think what I think, and challenge everything I conclude. I have more questions then answers, I have answers without solution and I have solutions without conclusion. I could be right, I could be wrong, I could be close, and who's to say. My notions are no more important then the people I will touch shoulders with today..... I think peoples thoughts and idea's hold more power then I, or anyone else can comprehend. Evolution of thought process is something I find remarkable and frustrating. But I know this, all thoughts effect my life and the closer I move to the surface, the more I discover the contrast in this world.
Forward movement I will always seek..................is there anything else you would like to ask of my thoughts?
Monday, November 6, 2006
Forward Thinking
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I'll think of something good to ask you, however I'm listening to John Coltrane for like the first time ever, and it's got me all feeling cool.
Couldn't agree more on the "ignorance is bliss" perspective. I find that, when I see ugly, in my world or in myself, I have to hold it up, inspect it, prod it, peel away what I know and look under the skin. I have found that many times, whether by rationaliztion or other means, I refuse to label "ugly" the same things that mainstream society does. I've even clung to those things at times as a part of my individuality. Nothing sinister, I don't yearn to feel the blade of a knife sliding between someone's shoulderblades or some other mania, but I am convinced there are wrongs in society and it's norms that should be changed for the good of future generations. I've touched on one or two things with you and Raven, but my list is very long. It is a passion. Of course, the things I have held up about myself and found them to be ugly by my own definition, I just don't seem to be quite as passionate to change for some reason.;)
Fred
Rebecca....this is profound....something to save for all time...I couldnt have done better....something I will re-read...one of the things I realized these last few years....Is "how" ugly peoples actions are....Its the increase measure..."how much"...that battles my ability to have compassion....Yes, I have compassion...before...years ago...I saw people as wounded....so their behavior made sense....then I could not be so affected..then...as the sum totals of ugly hit my heart..I saw the ugly and not the person..then bitterness...Its only for a few people I know...but wow...surprise...revelations of ugly created an inward battle...I have to go back to my reasoning before...about the "wounds" in the person and not just their actions..."No-one can show love unless they know love"...I want to feel light again..I know my tests are great these days so inward revelations continue to surprise me
It was a form of ignorance is bliss I had back in the days but I had some wisdom in their too...when the light finally goes on...with drops of depth or insight...thus creates another battle....that is my personal struggle these days....
Your article needs to be published there is much to be gained here..
-Raven
MAN! I have missed you!
Rebecca,
I was really getting into this quote but the word "ugly" would not leave my mind. In my world, ugly and beautiful are in the eye of the beholder and often synonymous. Take for example the dandelion.....growing in my lawn (all 100 square feet), it's as ugly as can be, but, growing in a wooded meadow, a beautiful flower. Thanks for the brain food.
Smiles,
have a good week:) yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder and ignorance is bliss in a lot of things
Deb
Hello again........
As always your writing is amazing. Your entries always leave me thinking and curious to read more of your entries. One of your recent entries inspired me tonight in my newest entry. You might want to stop over and read it. Thanks so very much for being here at J-Land.
Do keep writing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please Please Please
How can we expect to provide true compassion to others if we don't even understand the power of our own inner mentality?
Hummm....maybe this is what is wrong with Mark...lol...not funny but..I truelly believe it is..
Thanks for the comment you left in my J...still having issues with little miss Carlie..am working on the Billy thing! Hugs to you and hope you have a good week! TerryAnn
When I first read those sentences I immediately thought of WWII and the terrible things the Nazi's did, and afterward the regular man on the street, the mother holding her own child denied knowing, never saw anything...was this a case of ignorance? Allowing them to continue with their lives not hearing the screams of so many? Or an empty excuse for a conscious.........Sandi
Dear Rebecca, thank you for responding to my carnivaol entry, I appreciate. This entry of yours felt like reading a poem, the tone taking me away from the very content you wanted to communicate. The responses below helped me to re-focus on what you tried to say and I found that we differ, but who does not? Like Raven, I believe love must be learned and received before it can be given to others. I also do not agree that we are born with expectations, but we form and learn them in that particular culture we are developing, and we will all be be a reflection of our time with its morals and rituals. Some will be more hurt than others and love will be alien to them, they will never recover. Thank you for this lovely read.
Valerie
http://journals.aol.co.uk/iiimagicxx/surreality/
I read all the fascinating comments as well as your remarkable entry. I think good writing inspires good thinking and reaction. The 'ignorance is bliss' motif really struck a chord with me. I welcomed and wanted the truth, however, no matter how ugly or disturbing it might seem at first. But after I got used to it, the truth would seem so complex, so compelling, and the ignorance of yesterday so one dimensional and boring. I find that people will surrender their truths if they think you are going to be understanding. Nobody is going to force their hidden truths on people who don't want to hear it. You have to want the truth before you are going to get it. I really enjoy coming to a journal where I can read dialogues like this. Gerry
http://journalsl.aol.com/gehi6/daughters-of-the-shadow-men/
Hi Rebecca, wonderful entry! I could relate to what you said in so many ways, and I agree with many of your points. I too struggle to explore my own mind and its capacity to recognize, think, and reflect on things that's happening in my day to day life. Our mind is a very mysterious thing. Heart is even more so. If mind is material, then heart must be spiritual. Heart can see and perceive things that are beyond our 3-dimensional world. I can't agree more about your perception of love. It's beyond word to define it.
There are many many puzzles we human don't and won't ever have answers to, but we will never cease to question and to seek the anwers. That's just how our minds and hearts work.
Thanks for sharing your journal. I hope you keep bringing inspirations to your readers. Good luck!
-Mo
http://journals.aol.com/silencechen/GoldenSilence/
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